US Hegemony Spawns Russian-Chinese Military Alliance 2

Thank you for your ongoing efforts to wake the sheeple up Mr Roberts. The Chinese and Soviets do understand the consequences of ill-informed and ill-advised war mongering. That is why you never see them engaging in it. It is not too much of a stretch to think that they are planning to take America "out" for "its own good".Nothing But The Truth 08.09.07 - 3:09 pm #

Putin has done a great deal to ensure the free world is armed against the US Purple-Wire-Monster-Beast. He deserves an enormous amount of credit for his foresight and intelligent chess-play.Any Europeans at ICH, please, share your thoughts about the potential of becoming a nuclear crater for the sake of ol' George W.BigPearl 08.09.07 - 3:21 pm #

The neocons and Israel know that they are in their last throes. Their last card is to use tactical nuclear weapons in order to send the message to the whole world: Don't Mess with Us. They would love to use them against Iran but they cannot as they would hurt the economies of the Western world by disrupting the oil flowing from this region. So Pakistan is a good target. Moreover, the whole invasion of Afghanistan was not to oust the Taliban for some oil pipeline but mainly to be close to Pakistan the only Moslem nation that posseses nuclear weapons. This proximity would allow them either to neutralize or destroy Pakistan's nuclear arsenal.A Moslem nuclear weapon presents a real threat to Israel which through its fifth column in the administration and media usurped US sovereignty. Frankly I think that the Generals of the US army should upheld their oath to the US constitution and act accordingly. Their primary allegiance is to the Constitution and not to the commander in chief.Deceived 08.09.07 - 3:29 pm #

@Deseived, well said...A US friend since the 50’s is been encircled by US and India by the design of necons…..Nuclear deal with India, US high tech jobs flooded to India and Israeli weapons, such as Arrow missile defense system. US offering F18 and other modern weapon systems to India. The only fault of Pakistan is that it is a Muslim country….concerned american 08.09.07 - 3:53 pm #

That another bloc is forming to oppose the threat posed by the U.S. is fortunate. Hopefully it will grow quickly.It is the only solution that will bring to a halt the hegemonic ambitions of America and its greed-driven armament industry!Daniel Homepage 08.09.07 - 4:26 pm #

Thanks Paul, I need that!Paul Craig Roberts delivers on a promise to get rough with the neocons and pulls out the stops in his" U.S. Hedgmony Spawns Russian-Chinese military alliance."Lets get to the hard and sharp point here without mixing words.Bush and Cheney have DESTROYED a great deal of hard work which ended the cold war and ushered in an era of comparative peace on the planet. WHY?The economy of the United States dependes on war as a hedge against a sell off on Wall Street. Pretty ugly,huh? Yes, very ugly.We can't go back and start over , so lets start now with a reality check.How are we going to get these assholes out of Washington D.C. and install an emergency government to stop the bleeding. I know what your thinking and it won't work. If we shoot the bastards we are in for marshall law and we are better off without that. Trust me.Talk is cheap. We have to get up close and very personal if we are to get serious with the GOP in congress and break the neocons back for good.Attack AIPAC for all we are worth. We have plenty of information and many of the names of the ringleaders so just look them up and get as close to scareing the shit out of these weakest of the weak .The Religious right is up to their eyeballs in scandal . Most of it is scarcly below the surface on their books and easily leveraged to bring out the truth in the leadership. Dig it up and throw it in their faces in public forums. This will send them our message to end the racist rhetoric, (armageddon,the Isreali "project" etc)The arms companies are outr toughest adversary . They all have mercinaries in Iraq and in their headquarters. Bodygaurds and security staff are linked to CIA and FBI section chiefs. We must exploit the callusion between government and private enterprise angle while threatening to expose financial wrongdoing to the newspapers if they retaliate against our information warfare.Brandywine peace community has enough dirt on Lockheed Martin to fill the indian ocean(get it). Go for them and get the facts before loading your hard drives with research. Put it all on paper first, then get it out fast on a new pc with new spyware.Bechtel can be had by doing the research concerning their water rights theft in third world countries. Also a boatload of info can be found concerning their Iraq contract abuses and murderous rampages against Iraqi citizens by proxies in the Iraqi theatre tied to Dick Cheney.KBR and Halliburton are our bonanza piece in their near suicidal use of mercinary help to the tune of over fifty thousand murders in Iraq and Afghanistan. They also hold a gun to our vice presidents head if he squeals. Bush can be had by the blow job!jerry gates 08.09.07 - 4:42 pm #

There is a three part series on Asia Times with a german perspective on the neo-conservative infiltration of European politics and media.Here is a link:http://www.atimes.com/atimes/Front_Page/ IH10Aa01.htmlgo 08.09.07 - 6:09 pm #

Lawmakers slam alliance with USBy Our CorrespondentISLAMABAD, Aug 8: Members from both the ruling and opposition parties in the National Assembly on Wednesday kept attacking Pakistan’s alliance with the United States in the so-called ‘war against terrorism’ as a foreign policy debate, marked more by abandon than caution, was dragged out to a fourth day.Foreign Minister Khurshid M. Kasuri failed to make a scheduled speech as not many listeners were left in the house when he came to wind up the debate, which was dominated by demands for a review of a policy of perceived Pakistani subservience and American domination.After failure of hectic efforts to collect a respectable audience for the foreign minister’s speech, Parliamentary Affairs Minister Sher Afgan Khan Niazi moved a motion, and got it passed, to extend the debate to a fourth day on Thursday, when the house will meet at 9:30am.There were hardly about 40 members present in the 342-seat house at the time and Mr Kasuri’s speech could have been blocked if an opposition member had pointed out the lack of the 86-member quorum.Most of the criticism was focused on the latest US legislation tying aid to Pakistan to its performance in fighting terrorism, a US nuclear deal with India, and controversial statements by two presidential hopefuls — Democrat Senator Barak Obama that he would be ready to send troops to Pakistani tribal areas in search of Al Qaeda leader Osama bin Laden and by Republican Tom Tancredo suggesting to threaten attacks on Islam's holiest sites in Makkah and Medina to deter a nuclear attack on the United States.Some ruling party members seemed to compete with those of religious parties in denouncing the US for allegedly being ‘insincere’ to Pakistan and harming the Muslim world.But some other members of the Pakistan Muslim League (PML)-led ruling coalition, including Minister of State for Finance Omar Ayub Khan and Muttahida Qaumi Movement’s parliamentary leader Farooq Sattar, defended the government's foreign policy and countered the opposition’s criticism.Criticism by members of the People's Party Parliamentarians (PPP), too, was punctuated with words of caution in foreign affairs dealings and a stress on a full transition to democracy.AMERICAN ANGER: While an anti-American speech by parliamentary secretary for defence Tanveer Hussain Syed on Tuesday sparked a sharp condemnation by the US embassy in Islamabad and a disclaimer by the foreign ministry on Wednesday, another parliamentary secretary and ruling party back-bencher were equally vehement in attacking Washington’s present and past policies towards Pakistan.“These statements are outrageous and highly reprehensible,” the embassy said about Mr Syed’s remarks that called for responding to the present situation by allowing ‘jihad’ in Kashmir and ‘recognising’ the Taliban in Afghanistan, accusing the United States of seeking to take control of an ‘independent Kashmir’ to keep a check on China, and holding the American CIA along with the Indian and Afghan intelligence agencies responsible for the killings of Chinese nationals in Pakistan.“The parliamentarian has levelled allegations that were completely unfounded and irresponsible,” said the statement issued by embassy spokesperson Elizabeth O. Colton.In her comments on Mr Syed’s statement, foreign ministry spokesperson Tasnim Aslam said these were his “individual views and do not represent the government policy”.Parliamentary secretary for defence production Mohammad Faiz Tamman said Pakistan had suffered “big jokes played by Uncle Tom” in what he called a ‘ove affair’ since the creation of the country by using its services when needed but leaving it out in the cold afterwards whether it was the fight against communism, the Soviet invasion of Afghanistan, or the situation created by the 9/11 attacks.“We should devise a policy so that we can restrain them (Americans) from fulfilling their designs,” he said.A PML back-bencher, Chaudhry Ejaz Ahmed, earlier said the Americans were “doing all this under a plan (and) to avenge the disgrace of their defeat in Iraq”. He described the threats of direct operation in Pakistani tribal areas as empty threats of ‘a coward nation’ and asked the government to reject any conditional aid from Washington.About Mr Tancredo’s suggestion to threaten to target Makkah and Medina, he said: “If anybody ever dared to do it, a million Muslims can become suicide attackers.”Minister of State Omar Ayub said the foreign policy pursued by the government, as well those of the previous governments of former prime ministers Benazir Bhutto and Nawaz Sharif were in national interest and successful.He described statements by the two prospective American presidential candidates as irresponsible and said they should be restrained by the US administration as they were ‘playing with fire’.Mr Sattar said Pakistan’s foreign policy had been influenced by international ‘accidents’ from the beginning such as the Soviet intervention in Afghanistan and the 9/11 and called for removing the impression that it was dictated by the United States.But he asked the government’s critics whether they could implement what they were saying and what alternative they had to fall back upon.concerned american 08.09.07 - 6:24 pm #

What price such a liability?By Ayaz AmirEMERGENCY, martial law, election in uniform, election from these assemblies, no return of Nawaz Sharif, a deal with Benazir on Gen Musharraf’s terms, general elections to suit the general’s convenience: this is the nonsense that Pakistan faces. And all because of one man and his paranoid desire to cling to power, no matter what the consequences. A fine gift to the country on its 60th birthday.On a sinking ship any captain with a semblance of honour and sense of duty is first concerned about the safety of his passengers and crew. He is the last man to leave the ship. In our case this concept of honour has been turned on its head. A helmsman for eight years, not satisfied that he has been around for so long, is concerned only about himself. His ship is sinking but he wants everyone to go down with him.This has nothing to do with the Constitution, or the 17th Amendment or any other legal document. This is megalomania pure and simple (my dictionary defining megalomania thus: obsession with the exercise of power…delusion about one’s own power or importance, typically as a symptom of manic or paranoid disorder).It is also akin to Hitler’s mental condition in his bunker as the Red Army closed in, determined to take the German nation down with him. That is why he ordered a ‘scorched earth’ policy, the destruction of everything, including basic infrastructure, the last embers of his anger not so much against his enemies as against his own people who he felt had not been strong or Aryan enough to prevail against the odds. (A good thing for Germany his orders weren’t carried out.)Wounded, stricken, paralysed…we are running out of words and metaphors to describe this dispensation in its last throes. No one has cornered or paralysed Pakistan’s imitation Cromwell. He has brought all this on himself – the author of his own misfortunes, his powers of imagination circumscribed by his fears.He feels he is riding a tiger and will be devoured if he gets down. This is wrong imagery. We are a forgiving nation. We did nothing to Yayha Khan, who presided over Pakistan’s biggest disgrace. Nothing ever happened to that other military hero, Lt Gen Amir Abdullah Khan ‘Tiger’ Niazi, who surrendered to Jagjit Singh Aurora in Dhaka’s Race Course Ground. The tiger and his riding are only in Musharraf’s imagination.Provided he can bring himself to trust the Constitution, provided even at this late stage he can think of something beyond his survival, he can still play a role in the transition from this wretched halfway house, betwixt military authoritarianism and democracy, to something more closely resembling democracy. But how do you treat a victim of his own fears? About ‘wehm’ or nameless suspicions it is said even the great Hakim Luqman had no cure.Musharraf wants everything tailor-made to his fears. He wants to remain army chief. He wants to become president for another five years while still retaining his army position. He wants to be elected by these assemblies when their own tenures are about to finish. He wants general elections in which his allies are assured of victory. He wants to keep Nawaz Sharif out of the political arena. He wants to cut a deal with Benazir on his terms.A thousand desires, each more pressing than the other. Alas, the time for them is past. For seven and a half years Pakistan lay at Musharraf’s feet. I do not exaggerate: he did as he pleased. The holy fathers danced to his tune and gave him the 17th Amendment, parliament was a rubber stamp and political parties were supine. Things have changed.March 9 happened when Chief Justice Iftikhar Chaudhry stood up to military diktat. Then May 12 when the MQM, trying to be more loyal than the king, overplayed its hand in Karachi, leading to the killing of move than 40 people. Then July 20, when the Supreme Court bench headed by Justice Ramday wrote judicial history by declaring invalid all the steps taken against the Chief Justice. This was the first such reverse suffered by a military ruler in Pakistan’s history.The republic we await is yet far away. But something has happened. The Pakistani nation was so demoralised it had even stopped dreaming. That gift if nothing else now stands restored.In this new mood the people of Pakistan won’t put up with such things as the imposition of emergency. As for martial law, the last option of tinpot patriarchs in the terminal stages of distress, its first casualty will be Musharraf, and its second the army when it shoulders the onus of a move bound to be reviled across the political and social spectrum.This has not been a good period for the army’s standing with the Pakistani public. We don’t need this gulf to widen. And Pakistan can do without sinking to the level of Myanmar.Lord in heaven, after 60 years of existence still stuck at the beginning, still trying to figure out our first steps. Don’t we deserve better than this? Was this the land of hope and freedom envisaged by Iqbal and Jinnah – a playground to some of the most incompetent straw-packed heroes it has been the lot of any Third World country to endure?Top brass stacked with favourites, the criterion for promotion these past eight years loyalty rather than competence in the field. Look at the Vice Chief: a veritable replica of Genghis Khan. A good thing any test of arms is the last thing on the general staff’s mind, otherwise the kind of steeped-in-politics command we have right now would be hard put to maintain its own in the field.Of what use our eastern cantonments? Time to dismantle them and turn them into defence housing colonies. Will F-16s and a new GHQ make us look better and more respected in the comity of nations? As for our nuke capability, for all the good it is doing us, the time may have come to hawk it as high-grade scrap on the international market.The stupid games we play and have been playing for the last 60 years. The imposition of emergency for what? To save Pakistan or save someone’s skin? Pakistan will be saved and preserved by its people, not for the next ten years but a thousand years.The space for freedom acquired over the last six months is a gift from no one. It has been won by the spirit and doughtiness of the Pakistani people: Chief Justice Iftikhar Chaudhry, Justice Rana Bhagwandas, the judges’ bench headed by Justice Ramday, the judges who resigned and those who showed solidarity with the judicial movement, the lawyers of Pakistan in the forefront of this movement, the leadership of the bar led by Munir Malik, the lawyers who defended the Chief Justice, especially Chaudhry Aitzaz Ahsan, Kurd who set the movement alight with his oratory, activists of political parties, ordinary people of this country who in their thousands greeted the Chief Justice.Let me not forget Javed Hashmi who manfully endured prison and on his release by the Supreme Court has received a hero’s welcome. He speaks now in a language marked by conviction and seriousness.Did the people of Pakistan do all this so as to endure another round of dictatorship? The future beckons. The Supreme Court is hearing the petition of Nawaz Sharif and Shahbaz Sharif regarding their return to the country. The government is already afraid – afraid of the tumult sure to arise when the Sharifs finally return. The lawyers are gearing up to challenge any move to get Musharraf ‘reelected’ by these assemblies. The Q League is frightened and its leadership does not know what to do.The country is reaching out to the future, bracing for change. There could be no greater sign of weakness or failure than the imposition of emergency. The generalissimo on more than one occasion has pooh-poohed this idea. Is this another solemn pledge about to be broken?Over the last eight years we have had our ears filled with talk of commando courage. Isn’t it time to honour the code of the commando for once? There is no need to be afraid of the Constitution. There is a right way of doing things and if this road is followed, many of the things that seem threatening may not be that frightening after all. Every military ruler in our history has had to be pushed out. Why not do things differently this time?concerned american 08.09.07 - 6:28 pm #

First AIPAC must be cleared out along with their dual passport fellow travellers.Deport them all to that Sh_ty Little Country in the Middle East as a French diplomat put it a while ago.AIPAC is the dead cockroach in America's salad.If putting America's interests above those of Israel's makes one a Patriotic American Anti Semite so much the better.Mannstein 08.09.07 - 6:37 pm #

Whew, that's a sobering article. I need to take a break before reading what others think.CK Homepage 08.09.07 - 6:41 pm #

Chinese have wisdom; Russians balls; neocons have run out of options.“If only a sweet young thing would volunteer to give Bush a blowjob so that he can be impeached before he leads us to Armageddon”Israelis keep dispatching their sweetens, highly trained in the art of giving a blowjob; alas, ol’ tinkler’s skin flute is all dried up.a reader 08.09.07 - 7:21 pm #

Without nuclear weapons America is a pushover for Russia and China, either individually or collectively. Right now, the American military is broken. Even a country like Iran could beat it. Just look at their performance in Iraq and Afghanistan. "The world's best and most powerful military" cannot even defeat a bunch of rag tag guerrillas numbering in the tens of thousands whose most sophisticated weapon is a rocket propelled grenade launcher. Does anyone seriously believe that that military would stand much of a chance against sophisticated militaries like the Russians and Chinese? The neocons and their camp followers can thank their lucky stars that America does have nuclear weapons. The possession of those weapons has made it possible for America to pursue an aggressive, interventionist and imperialist foreign policy, with relative ease.However if America gets into a shooting war with Russia and/or China, you can bet your bottom dollar that the neocons would be scared shitless and not use their nuclear weapons. They do not have a death wish. They certainly don't believe in martyrdom. From a larger historical perspective, the American military has never, with one exception, fought a truly competent military opponent on its own and defeated that opponent without significant help in the form of powerful allies, a weakened or bogged down opponent, facing a much reduced part of an opponent's military or an opponent not bringing to bear its full military power. The only exception is Japan during World war II. Even then America had the advantage of being able to read the Japanese secret codes. How well they would have done otherwise is a big question mark. They certainly would not have won the Battle of Midway, which was the turning point in the Pacific War.Sam 08.09.07 - 7:29 pm #

Good job PCR!!! The fuse is lit and we're all standing around with our fingers in our ears waiting for the fireball to deliver us to the Bosum of the Creator.With PNAC, your will's will be done even if it kills us all. I wonder if it would make a difference if we instead offered up Bush and Cheney as a human sacrifice instead of arranging a blowjob? - sorry, I just naturally gag at the thought of Cheney naked!PS - I knew Borat was a spy!!!Angel Gabriel 08.09.07 - 7:48 pm #

If the world leaders had any sense or balls, the entire planet would unite against the USA & israel, the enemies of peace, democracy & the human race.Al 08.09.07 - 7:56 pm #

The one fact mentioned that should be noted is that the Neo Cons, the political militry industrial groups, are not acting in secret they actually advertize their agendas.Thee is more than ample evidence out there as to what the past, present and future leadership has in store for the world.many people have been playing this mind game sicne the 50's and formation of House on Un-American activitys and to us for over 50 years now the direction of nation never vered from it empire building with a fascist form of government.We watched the Republican or more rightly GOP set up the economic foundations while the Democratic wing set up the social programming needed to implement this program.The true American of the militias in the south and heartlands complaining about government encroachment into their daily lives could not be understood by easterns masses of popualce who depended since 1940's for government intervention and running of thier lives.That those in power broke the backs of American Independence of small governemtn believers of militia, the Social Democrats saying they were a threat to child care and low income housing while the repubs used the demos want your guns and gradually turned them into todays hard core Fascist militaristic groups.Many groups who defended Constituional Articles were allowed to be killed thier lands confiscated and all this culminated by botht the Social Democrats and GOp need for a police state formation when everyone sat by and watched US military kill Americans at WACO and Ruby Ridge and cheered the end results.This allowed the formation of a federalized domestic police force..Bush's Mandate and the new HB 700?, elimination of Possee Commitatus Laws and under the guise of protecting Americans after the towers fell Habeascorpus was gone with the wind along with 4 parts to our Constituion.All laws replaced by the Homeland Secuerity ACT, Patriot ACT and no one can read what is the full text but a very small group of people.We have been living in a form of Voluntary Slavery mainly because of greed and stupidity.To make it shorter , what it all boils down to is that for reasons all so clearly known we allowed those in power to gradually break Constituional Limits set in place by our Constituion in Speical Interest partiononing Bills until it was so weakend as to be not there except in the mindds being manipualted by Governeing bodies and fiancial managers.The demos to this day believe they can restructure the social infrastructure of the US or even Iraq or Somalia and Venezuela in partner ship with the fiancial entity of Gzop connections with the Corps.As an example of this collaberation one only has to look at wehat happend in the past and is now ongoing for such atheoldman 08.09.07 - 8:12 pm #

In New Orleans we see the amount of collaberation of this eleitist attitude of Social Democracy and Corproate Fascism combining to make a BRAVE NEW WORLD.The children of New Orleans are the guinea pigs to be used in one part this experiment.Remember now Democrats cried for fiancial relif and heloped move the greater part of New Orleans residence out of area and immediately the Corproate secotr divided the wasted city hired low cost Mexican laborers and the Democratic Governor and Mayor of the city sat down with FEMA to discuss how to build.No member of old city council had a vote in new direction as under the laws of country it was a disater ara and under true martial law.FEMA was moved to be under HOmeland Security, the Religious Right were the faith based Chairtys to distribute goods.The school age children will be divided into two classes and go to two distinctly different schooling systems.The testing of children will determine what class of schooling they shall recieve; with top 50% of the highest test scores will attend privatized, they are calling them charter schools, while those with the lower scores will attend public schooling.Any child not found up to acceptance standards at charter schools will be sent to public schools.These charter schools it seems will be mostly whites, under old systems the whites lived near the better schools and recived more funding for eduction befor ethe flooding so score higher overall than most blacks, but some blacks will still make it.Teh Charter schools have the smallest class to teacher size, roomier classrooms with more teaching aides and aids than will the public schools, around 30% to 59% less students per teacher.This is but an example of what both partys have long sought, an educated class to manage both industry and government including schools, with a highly trainable mass of workers for future industrial and military needs.READ WHAT THE PROGRAM IS DOING! IT IS NO SECRET; except to those who will not open their eyes.theoldman 08.09.07 - 8:30 pm #

"Neocons are people who desire war, but know nothing about it."If only a sweet young thing would volunteer to give Bush a blowjob so that he can be impeached before he leads us to Armageddon."Great, great, GREAT!And while we're at it let's add: Paul Craig Roberts, former Administration man, current dissenter. We needed this guy, and we need more like him; as many ex-government people as possible must use the strongest terms capable to condemn Bush, his neocons and the whole mess they have made.PCR is correct: Polite words are useless. Words must now be used as bayonets: Thrust hard and deep. We must find a way to get Bush and his imps out FAST.Franz 08.09.07 - 8:32 pm #

Sam,You seriously underestimate the power of the US military. It is not built for keeping the peace or occupation. It is built around kicking a whole lot of ass, real fast. The US hardware is much more advanced than the Russian or Chinese counterparts. China can't even produce a good jet themselves. They have started manufacturing one recently, but it is a knock off of an Israeli design they bought. Taiwan, a non-nation, has more advanced air craft than China.The US also has an all volunteer military that could be doubled or tripled rather quickly with a draft. In addition, if American industry was to switch to war time production such as in WWII, the Chinese and Russians would be hard pressed to keep pace. The US provided the vast majority of Allied arms in WWII. I'm not promoting war, and I can't stand the Neo-Con assholes in charge. Hopefully in the next year and a half, the US can start doing some house cleaing and get rid of all these people in power. I believe that it already started in November 2006.Only a fool would underestimate the US. Admittedly, the US has a lot of problems, but it amazes me how so many people on this forum critize the US, all the while promoting regimes such as Russia, China,　North Korea and so on. Russia just fired a missle into the Georgia plus the Chechniya situation, China is horrible in concern to Human Rights, and the North Korean people are starving to death for one man's ego.True the US has many problems, one of which is horrible leaders at the moment. The US has wronged many nations in the past, as it is still doing today. However, don't promote regimes, some of which are very deplorable, just because they oppose the US. The US has done many positive things in the world. What this administration does is not the will of the American people. If you want to blame your average American, then I am sure that all you Canadians, Brits, Aussie and other all support Iraq and the war or terror being that your governments all have troops in Iraq and Afganistan. We, like you, want peace. We are tired of our government committing acts in our name. Peace, GaijinAnonymous 08.09.07 - 8:34 pm #

@ theoldman --Correct, the regime is going out of its way bragging about what they are doing. 20 years ago they bragged about how they were able to throw hundreds of thousands of Americans out of work AND GET AWAY WITH IT.Nothing is secret. There is no "conspiracy". Michael Moore's movie, Farenheit 911, even showed the clip of G.W.Bush bragging about being one of the "Haves and Have Mores."Amazing! They steal the country right out from under the citizens, laugh and boast about it, and nothing happens!Franz 08.09.07 - 8:40 pm #

Sorry to burst anyone's bubble but the joke about wishing someone would give W a bj has been making the rounds for a while and PCR is not its author.°kamo Homepage 08.09.07 - 8:40 pm #

Yes, the US military is directed towards total destruction. The question is now reversed. The Russian and Chinese military and, for that matter their economies, are also directed towards occupation (economical occupation in the case of the USA) and not destruction of our nation.These nations have learned from previous wars that destruction is a loose-loose result of such destructive-only war policy.The USA government, in its delusion, has the mentality of destruction at all costs.This policy is being used in Iraq where the USA wants to control it as a territory not as a nation.Gamal Akabani 08.09.07 - 8:43 pm #

Hey Gaijin, hate to bring it up, but the good ol' US is bancrupt and Chinese are paying your bills. BTW, through the history US was run by genocidal madmen, murdering 90% of your native population and millions arond the world (remember 1900 Philippines? Probaly not.). It is not Bush, it is most of you, US.Wes S 08.09.07 - 8:43 pm #

The author is reading to much “Weekly Standard”, I have given some examples of civil society of Pakistan and they will not bring a so called “Islamic revolution”, revolution has no religion Mr. ………….Pakistanis could bring a revolution of free election and get rid of American puppet Mush… pls stop misinforming American people about “Islamic revolution” where less than 10% Pakistanis are orthodox Muslims.concerned american 08.09.07 - 8:46 pm #

Umm who's running the ship now?? A few days ago I happened to come across an article that stated the FBI and CIA said that Bush has been on prozac, alcohol, and coke. it showed a pix of about five white house staffers standing behind Bush with his head on his desk boozed out. in front of him is an open bottle of whiskey and a glass full of the liqour.now who the hell is in charge of the country?? it is also possible that some congress members are on coke.Bluetiger 08.09.07 - 8:58 pm #

As for no secrecy, it is also with the US military where programs on tactics andsdeminars minutes of how to engage and take vvoer a country are posted evn on the Internet.Naval College is a great one for this.Some interesting observations have surfaced on US military reactions to the Iranians change of tactics during tier recent war games.Surprise, Surprise Iran did not and will not play the war game scenarios the US military and civilian experts said they would.To date no amount of incursions by manned or unmanned aircraft has drawn out Irans Radar Capabilities except for mobile units.Iran has been able to target US coverts in Kurd areea who cross border and fire inot Iraqui lands against them with artillary of which most is still in unknown positions.Iran has been able through domestic populatons to detect covert Britsh and US incursion attempts up to capturing British Special units said to be best in world.During Irans largest ever war games what surprised the Americans the most was not equipment but thier small unit with almost total local contrtol by area commanders. Capability to hide and fight without large concentration of troops or a tight central command structures as in past.Dispersal of resupply points all over the country;No large fuel or armory depots to destroy and ability of troop to remain at large for long periodss of time.Yes the US would ultimately defeat Iran but in actuality they are attempting to undermine it from within, we already have on he payroll over 9,000 Iranain defectors here and in Britian to replace as we did in Iraq the civil leaders and several thousand Iranian men being trained, as were the 5,000 so called Free Iraquis of last Gulf War fame, in old Romanian, Bulgarian, Czech and Poland camps.What makes a nuke attack so hard to achieve succes is lack of intelligence of target sites and their ability to withstand hits, widely dispursed military targets, largly mobile and the greates fear of all and one never heard too much outside of US military or within news rooms at all,Iran will not lay down without an overwhelming devestating destruction the likes not ever seen before on earth. No "shock and awe" pyro technic made for TV propaganda destruction, but a flattening and the destruction of even Iranian satelite in space.Teh most dangrous aspect of Iran, nd this has been shwon even to soem extent in Iraq by the resistance, Iran will fight only one way," IMMEDIATE AND ALL OUT TO THE DEATH WARFARE."NO HOLDS BARRED OVER THERE AND BY ANY OF THEIR AGENTS ABROAD FOR THAT MATTER.Caspian Seal area pipelines, the worlds most productive oil fields the joint Saudi Kuwiati complex, and damn near anyone who sides with the US will be targets.It is the same response as would be used by N. Korea, as recognized by the Armitage State and Mlitary Study Groups "PNAC" papers but for the Asians and not Arabs and why both countries are so troublesome.theoldman 08.09.07 - 9:21 pm #

Russia and China forced into military alliance? No need for panic. All is going according to plan. Read "The Late Great Planet Earth" by Hal Lindsay http://www.amazon.com/Late-Great...h/dp/ 031027771X and come to an understanding of the road map these insane ziochristian fundies are travelling towards their beloved rapture.Anonymous 08.09.07 - 9:23 pm #

For Bluetiger, Cheney is in charge and has been since he appointed himself as Bush's running mate. With Russian dominance in Europe and the near east, China's dominance in the Far East and Venzeula's dominance in South America, the neocon/zionist cabal is in deep doo doo.Hal O'Leary 08.09.07 - 9:53 pm #

Wes,The Philippines, let's see, territory the US received after the Spanish American war, ''Remember the Maine.'' That Philippines right? I happen to be rather good with history, but nice try!As far as the native population, I have Cherokee blood flowing through these veins and at one time lived on a reservation...but once again, nice try!With a good Christian name like Wes, I am wondering from what part of the world you are from. I hope not Canada, Australia, or New Zealand, being what they did to the native populations of those lands, i.e. the same thing that happened in the U.S.And Lord forbid you be European since they colonized the majority of the world for centuries and are responsible for the so many residual problems to this day i.e. in Africa and the Middle East where the British did not do a very good job of carving up the Ottoman empire, Israel, etc.However, you are spot on about China being America's banker (I read that PCR article too, plus a 1000 others). The reason why China and Japan are America's bankers is so that the War in Iraq can continue and RICH people in the US can get a tax cut. I dont and never have supported either, surpise, surprise. Oh, with the largest GDP in history, I wouldnt exactly say the US is banKrupt. It is living way too much on credit at the moment.I am interested in where you are from. Let's put your homeland under the microscope and see if you guys come off sqeeky clean shall we?Gaijin 08.09.07 - 9:55 pm #

Here is most likely Iranian warfare scenario.Israel will be the catalyst with command center located within the new capable of withstanding multiple nuclear hits US/Israel joint command military base already built in Israel.Israel will launch nuke armed planes from Israel, with protective aircraft launched from its new Kurdistan military and air fields from which they are under contrat to train covert Kurds who are already attacking Irans infrastructure.The trouble group who are now being trained, with some trainees already covertly attacking Irans Central Asian border regions, at Blackwaters US contracted Caspain Sea Speical Groups naval and military Special Operations Training center hitting Irans infrastructure and small military units.The US will wiat before attacking for the forthcoming Iranian retaliation and to then protect Israels returning fighters and figheter bombers who because of fuel needs have to return to Kurdistan. Wehn he US hits it will be targets not completley destroyed and pre selected targets not on Israels list.The one fly in onintment is , what if Iran hits back before the Israeli jets get to targets.Not a premeptive strike but one just before and before US is ready to launch its support.We need world to think Iran instigated war or at least have some form of plausible denial ready and waiting to spread the propaganda.Teh US military commqnd structure and state Dept are not nuts, but they believe we, the USD power structure, not you and I we are ants who will bear the burden later,actually believe that they can withstand, live through, and even win a full out confrontation not with just Iran if they have a nuke but both a simultaneous attack upon our homeland by China and Russia.Someone asked who is running this country, Ever hear of a guy called DR. Strangelove?WELL THEY, yes there is more than one Dr., ARE STILL ALIVE AND WELL BUT HIDING SOMEWHERE WITHIN THE SHADOW GOVERNMENT.theoldman 08.09.07 - 10:10 pm #

Phillipines Spanish American not realy a war bvy the US media manipualtion.Americans slaughtered over 100,000 indigenous Phillipinos after the Spanish had relinquished it control of territory.One famous massacre at a bridge where unarmed populace were lined up and shot with the general in charge using Gods Blessings to justify it.Lets ask the Cheerokee Nation how many of their black slaves they dragged behind them on the Trial of a Thousnd Tears and why so few of those black slaves made the whole distance?theoldman 08.09.07 - 10:17 pm #

Mannstein,You say: "AIPAC is the dead cockroach in America's salad." However disagreeable the image, I would say that "AIPAC is the very much alive and breeding cockroach in America's salad." You Americans must do something with them, and fast! As I understand your situation there, all potential candidates for the presidency in 2008 have kneeled in obeience to these cockroaches. Why is that? It can't be bribery, as the money flows in the other direction. Is it blackmail? Nah, too many candidates. Could it possibly be the Rothschildean world-wide banking system, which currently seems to be going down? That's where I'd place my 25-cent bet.Otto 08.09.07 - 10:52 pm #

Hey, Gaijin,We come to this site in order to learn, to pool resources of knowledge, and to exchange ideas. It is absolutely none of your business where anyone is from. This is not a site for ego-games: times are too serious for that.Otto 08.09.07 - 11:04 pm #

The old man,Very interesting posts from you...I more or less agree with your projected scenario on the planned USA/zionist attack upon Iran. However, in the last several days, Israel has held a top-secret cabinet meeting (8.8.07) regarding an imminent attack upon Syria, as well as issuing a travel advisory against Israeli travel in all Middle-Eastern Muslim countries (as well as asking those Israelis currently there to immediately return to Israel). The angels are now clearly dancing upon the head of a pin. Let us hope for the best.Otto 08.09.07 - 11:15 pm #